A Good Beer Blog

-------

Have you read The Unbearable Nonsense of Craft Beer - A Rant in Nine Acts by Alan and Max yet? It's out on Kindle as well as Lulu.

Maureen Ogle said this about the book: "... immensely readable, sometimes slightly surreal rumination on beer in general and craft beer in particular. Funny, witty, but most important: Smart. The beer geeks will likely get all cranky about it, but Alan and Max are the masters of cranky..."

Ron Pattinson said: "I'm in a rather odd situation. Because I appear in the book. A fictional version of me. It's a weird feeling."


Comments

Comments are locked. No additional comments may be posted.

Craig -

I think "Brewpub" needs to mentioned as well. Most people associate a brewpub with a microbrewery, when in fact most (and most is my escape clause) are really restaurants who also, happen to make beer. Brewpubs that don't have good food don't stay brewpubs very long. Some, produce enough to blur into that micro area, but most don't.

Alan -

I did. I did I did I did. It's within nano.

But what is a brew pub chain?

ethan -

Nanos join trade associations, or at least some do. Partly because conferences are a lot of fun, partly because information is a lot of fun, and partly because in a highly regulated industry, joining voices to promote legislation and remove usless restrictions just makes sense, no matter how small you are.

We defenitely need t-shirt sales as much as beer :)

But I am down with the general "who cares" part of it, as with the styles debate. It is endless, needless and wearisome.

Alan -

Nancroist!

Alan -

Yes, I think big craft (aka crafty) is a huge threat to good beer. Actual small brewers like yourselves ought to be lobbying against internal importing and branch planting. And start with reappropriating the word "small" from control of the big.

Gary Gillman -

Currently there is still a bright line IMO between large-scale brewing and craft brewing. Very few products of the former are really comparable to the latter. Sierra Nevada and even Boston Beer Company have grown commendably but even they are not close to the scale of a Molson-Coors, say. (And if they get there great, they deserve it). There are exceptions, we all know the beers here and in the U.S. But it is small potatoes so far for the bigs with the exception probably of Blue Moon which ships a lot of barrels I understand, but I am not sure that model will replicate with a double IPA or Imperial Stout, say. The history as it stands now seems to me to require a separation between the two kinds of brewing even though admittedly it is not as clear as 30 years ago and that is fine, it is what we all wanted surely. So I still view the nano, brewpubs and micros as part of craft brewing and the bigs as a force unto themselves. It could change in 5 years, but I'm not sure it will, given the great mass of beer still sold is in the bland international lager style.

Gary

Gary

Alan -

But there is no "craft brewing" to be part of other than marketing speak.

Gary Gillman -

There must be 30 or so small Ontario brewers featured currently at (e.g.) well-known Toronto beer bars making a wide variety of styles, aren't these craft brewing and ditto their hundreds of U.S. counterparts?

Gary

Alan -

Well, (i) people we doing the same thing before "craft beer" was coined and (ii) they are doing and using equipment indistinguishable from brewing at a larger scale. The label fails to acknowledge the fact of continuum.

Gary Gillman -

Well, that's true. I guess it depends how you look at it..

Gary