A great old thread is going on over at Tandleman's place where I may find myself stepping on British toes due to a combination of curiosity about the unknown, blindness to good manners and a bit of poking the bee hive with a stick. Nothing like making a res ipsa loquitor self-evidence comment and running up empiricism, that's what I say. Effect as opposed to intention, that is what it is about in part.
But I have a hell of a time with commenting on blogger sometimes and find myself using the "anonymous" button more and more with my ID in the text. Sometimes it does not work. So, the comment below did not post earlier today UK time... but I like it so much I wanted to preserve it and extrapolate it as well as away from it to the topic of CAMRA generally as well as beer fests... or is it really about good beer loving? So, let me know - is this below valid or am I in fact being a jerk?
The silliness (and I do not count that as having a pop at you... I use words like arsehole for that and I do not consider you, sir, anything like that) is that you are appearing to be pot calling the kettle black. I say that in the nicest way and, please let me be clear, if you actually do have a cross eyed dog, I fully apologize.
The interesting thing for me, sitting afar (but I trust not above as that would make me the arsehole), in recent discussions started by the CAMRA blog comments and continuing with the BrewDog is that there is a form of defensive belief in CAMRA adherents that I had not encountered before. So, if you take that as looking for an argument, that is your call. But remember Burns, as I do: "Wud some power the giftie gie us..." I am having a discussion.
But, again, I don't know what to say about stuffiness other than I am not going to engage in fisking - but you are aware that some have reported stuffiness, right. I mean you are not expecting me to have a baby personally before I report that birthing is painful, right?
So, I suspect there are a couple of things really at play which are quite interesting and not at all "picking holes":
- Volunteerism. It is a hugely welcome in all things and important thing but also attracts a creeping sense of entitlement. Because there are volunteers involved, discussion let alone criticism is bad. We think of volunteers as sacrificing but do not balance that off with the real joys (benefits, status, friendships, beer) received in return.
- Belief. CAMRA lovers (I am neutral) display an affection for the club and its tenents that compounds the difficulties involving discussion. One does not ask if "CAMRA runs it as it sees fit" is actually wise. I do not know why that is except to note that there is a very comment auto response around "that was handled at the AGM."
- Pleasure. I am starting to think this is more an issue in all beer discussion but we have to admit that we are pleasured by beer and as we do we become less discriminating about the external view of whether we are still thinking straight about it.
Again, I trust you are adults but appreciate now there are unexpected sensitivities. I do still really like my 13:18 comment so if you want to back up to that, start again and not dismiss it, feel free.
I like it. Especially that bit about belief and pleasure. I like it so much I want to take it home and call it George. Please correct errors or muddle-headedness.