A Good Beer Blog

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Have you read The Unbearable Nonsense of Craft Beer - A Rant in Nine Acts by Alan and Max yet? It's out on Kindle as well as Lulu.

Maureen Ogle said this about the book: "... immensely readable, sometimes slightly surreal rumination on beer in general and craft beer in particular. Funny, witty, but most important: Smart. The beer geeks will likely get all cranky about it, but Alan and Max are the masters of cranky..."

Ron Pattinson said: "I'm in a rather odd situation. Because I appear in the book. A fictional version of me. It's a weird feeling."


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Aaron -

I live in Seattle and I tend to pay $5 for a 16oz pint of beer brewed within 30 miles of my home. Happy hour saves me $1 to $2. I consider that a bargain. I will also pay $10 once or twice a month for a Belgian import.

That being said, I price 12 and 24 packs of Rainer, PBR, and Highlife while grocery shopping and keep a stocked fridge in case the guys show up and want a couple cold ones.

Barry M -

Living in Germany, I can hardly complain about tax on beer. My overall tax bill and public health insurance is a lot higher than I paid in Ireland, but it's worth it, and the cheaper beer compensates :) Almost three years later, I still can believe I can buy a crate of 20 500ml bottles of some lovely beer for 13 Euro! :D It's different in Ireland and the UK, but if there, I'm usually in the pub, and I'll still pay. When in Copenhagen, I don't bother to look at the price list...

Ed Carson -

I usually am willing to pay between $3 and $7 US($2.97 and $6.94 CAN, £1.88 and £6.94, €2.23 and €5.20) at a bar for between 12oz. and 16oz. US (.355 liter/litre and .473 liter/litre). And I'm okay with up to $10 for a bottle of Oerbier.

John -

I don't think I have an upper limit on how much I will pay for beer, but I think that's as a result of living in Italy, where good indigenous artisanal beer rarely cost less than six euros. But I don't think it's necessarily as a result of "good beer" being more labor intensive than any other. Specifically in Italy, the country has a similar relationship to beer that Americans have to wine: higher prices are justified by the luxury associated with such "special" beers. It is a stated goal by many Italian producers to make beer not for everyday consumption (which is a role wine fulfills) but for special occasions or meals. In turn, people are convinced into paying more for what they perceive to be better. But is it better? I can say that I have had 8-euro pints of good beer from Lombardy and 3-euro pints of good beer from Alto Adige.

So do I think I deserve a break? No, but that attitude is more a result of complacency and laziness than actual appreciation for inflated beer prices. I can live without beer. Seeing that I choose not to, maybe I deserve to pay the price :)

Alan -

You know, there are posts you post and you think that there really isn't that much to say about them or that readers won't see it as worth responding. Then you get thoughtful and diverse comments back like these and you think what a great thing it is to write a beer blog. Thanks guys. Any more thoughts?

Craig -

My local pub, the Lionheart, in Albany, has a phenomenal pricing structure. Operational hours are 3PM-4AM Seven days a week. They have twenty-ish taps all carryng craft brew. They have a decent selection of bottled, import and craft brews as well as the ubiquitous Bud and Coors. Here is the prcing set-up. From 3PM to 7PM, everyday, all 16 oz pints are $3.00 (US). These include, a rotating varierty of import and domestic craftbrews. They also have a separate tower (4 taps) that offers, higher-end product – More expensive, small batch specialty stuff or imports, with, generally higher ABV. These offerings are $4 for a 10oz/$6 for a 16oz. After 7PM everything raises one dollar. The first friday of every month is "First Firkin Friday". They get in a cask of something special and serve it until it kicks, later in the day. Again, these are the $4-10/$6-16 prices.

So being spoiled, I have a tough time spending more than $3, for a pint anywhere else.

Mike -

I live in Toronto and I rarely pay less than $8 for a pint when you consider further taxes and tip. I don't really think anything of it- I just take it for what it is.

I know I take great advantage of prices when I'm down in the US though. A few weeks ago I was at the Toronado in SF and 80% of their (often world class) 50 taps were only $3 or $4 (16oz) during happy hour (7 days/week). It's comforting to leave a bar having only spent $20 after a couple of hours.

Jim -

I wish we could all join hands and make pints as big as possible across the scale.

Steve Gates -

Being a frugal bastard, I like to purchase half pints in pubs that serve them in a pint glass. I find that often the barkeep will give you a generous half after you have tipped him initially or you are drinking in your regular local. The Mayfair in Ottawa is a great example of how a guy can take advantage of this arrangement. If you are of the ilk that finds this unethical or unscrupulous then enjoy your $8 pint and shut your piehole.

Craig -

How's this for a gag... The Mendocino Brewing Company in Saratoga Springs, has a tasting room. Because they are a true brewery and not a brewpub, they cannont legally operate a regular bar, it's a distribution law. So ever resourceful, they found a loophole – free 6 oz samples. Those samples, the longer you stay and depending on the bartender, get a little heavier pour, as the night progresses. It's not uncommon to leave having had a number of free "full" pints – full being 13-14 ounces. Not bad for free.

Oh did I mention the root beer for the kids, the "bring-your-own-wine" policy, and if you get a little peckish, just order out and have the food delivered right to you bar stool.

Pok -

Anything over $7 a pint had better be on the fine side of the beer spectrum - preferably with a true craft pedigree. I really have to grit my teeth when asked to pay in excess of that $7 for the uninspired liquids put out by the big brewers of Canada. IPA! Puh-leeze Mr. Keith!

Chris -

I would pay $7-$8 for a pint of good craft beer. No problem. This is Ontario where beer is put on a pedestal thanks to our gov't. However, I do not like paying $7.00 for a pint of mega-brew. When in a restaurant with mega-brew only and the price is $7.00, I order a coke.

Paul -

I live in Chicago, and you can easily go to the wrong type of bar and pay $6 for an aluminum pint of Bud Light. If you do some homework, though, you can find more laid back bars with great specials. I generally like to pay between $3-5 for a pint if I'm going to tuck in for a while, maybe watch a game.

When I'm going out to my local multitap/beer bar, I'm usually willing to shell out $6-8 for a goblet or snifter. The most I've paid for a beer at a bar is $10 for an 8oz pour of Bourbon County Stout at the Goose Island brewpub. It was worth every penny

Jeremy -

I'll pay more for something I have never tried before, and may never see again than for a regular, made within an hours drive of where I'm drinking pint. In my head a pint of non-imperial microbrew should be <$6CAD before tips but it is getting more and more rare to find that most places. $7 half pints of imports are starting to be common. Fortunately I have been drinking a bit less and generally don't look at the price list until the end of the night.

Pok -

In 1991 I paid $12 for two cans of Kokanee to the native fellow ferrying me across the Nitnat narrows on the West Coast Trail. Normally this would have bothered me but given the circumstance it was a bargain.

Mobile Disco -

At the moment it is between £2.70-£4 for a pint and £5-£10 for a hair cut.

I would happily spend £2.50 on a pint and £5 on a haircut