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Ethan -

I'm a Cicerone- (TM) or, wait: ®. *And* it's only beer. What's the problem? This seems to come up every 1.5 months or so, often when Greg Koch does anything. Guy likes divisive, that's sure.

Maybe some people don't understand the difference between "it puts food on my kid's table" and "i'm a fan!?" Most of the opinionators don't actually rely on beer sales for a living, it seems to me. And that doesn't invalidate their opinion, but it is worth pointing out.

And no disrespect to you, natch. I'm just saying. Oh no! Beer is the new wine! Alas: beer gets no respect... All I know for sure is: simcoe smells like cat pee.

Alan -

I didn't know where I was going when I started writing that up there but I was happy with it when it was done about 17 minutes later. Jay and Zak add their own calls for perspective and simplicity in their own way. More haiku and less branding? That might be it.

Jim -

I think this is a pretty fair assessment of many views on beer, and the whinning that goes on. @Ethan, I love the point on most people not making a living on beer, which changes perspective, no doubt.

Ethan -

beer haikus are always appreciated. I think there's even a site dedicated to them!

http://www.beerhaikudaily.com/

I hope that wasn't perceived as harshing on your post, Alan. But "Exhibit A" really ticked me off. For years and years in the US at least, choices of beers grew narrower and narrower- and all the marketing centered on sex and sports. Beer was cheap, tasteless crap that'll help you get laid: great!

So, when the industry finally turns towards marketing variety & quality, for that to become 'poncy" and "wine-ifying" is utterly infuriating. Exhibit A can go right back to 1981 and stay there if he wishes. I quite like 2011.

FlagonofAle -

My comment appearing on Stan's blog, and now on yours, probably makes it the most widely-read thing I've ever written.

I think mild irritation is a better description of it. Either way, passion incites strong feelings, whether good or bad.

Bailey -

Aw, that's nice. Thanks.

FlagonofAle -

And @Ethan beer has been doing quite fine for the past 20+ years without the Cicerone program. The complaint is not of good beer, but of trying to turn good beer into the "new wine".

Alan -

See, Bailey - you know what it is all about.

I am not complaining about passion or even hate but at the end of the day, the quiet of the B+B blog beat all that hands down.

Mark, Real-Ale-Reviews.com -

It's made my day that Boak and Bailey's house move is news in the States! Also look forward to hearing about Cornwall (we might be closer but it's still a damn long way from Yorkshire!)

Alan -

The States?!?!??!

You are talking with the western edge of the Empire circa 1780s.

Stephen Beaumont -

"Hate" is indeed harsh. As "love" is extreme. I've long stated that I love my wife and my family, and I'm especially fond of beer. I also happen to, in part, make a living from it.

You make a good point about the end of February, though. March is just around the corner, though, and then April. Then my birthday and all will be well with the world.

Ed Carson -

"...news in the States."
"The States!?!??!"
And they say United Statans(Statists?) don't know anything about geography! (Question: Exactly which nation does the National Hockey League represent?)

Ethan -

@Flagon: Can you unpack what you mean by "the new wine?"

Alan -

Isn't it a Biblical reference? I hope so as it is far less witty if that was not the point.

FlagonofAle -

I don't read responses to comments I leave on other blogs. Google should have a way to track these for me.

beer is not the new wine. I'm afraid it's not as clever as you hoped, Alan. "New wine" = wine-ifying beer. That's all.

Alan -

I can't even remember what made us fall apart. Two weeks is an eternity in blog years

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