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Have you read The Unbearable Nonsense of Craft Beer - A Rant in Nine Acts by Alan and Max yet? It's out on Kindle as well as Lulu.

Maureen Ogle said this about the book: "... immensely readable, sometimes slightly surreal rumination on beer in general and craft beer in particular. Funny, witty, but most important: Smart. The beer geeks will likely get all cranky about it, but Alan and Max are the masters of cranky..."

Ron Pattinson said: "I'm in a rather odd situation. Because I appear in the book. A fictional version of me. It's a weird feeling."


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The Beer Nut -

Is it meant to be aged? I noticed when Jeff reviewed it it had a best-before date in 2007.

FWIW, I've had filtered beers that have improved with age, so I don't think it's just about the live yeast.

Alan -

Well, if you put a vintage date on something one would expect aging is in the cards. Otherwise, why not Coors Lite 2010? But at 7.2% I was pushing it for four years.

The Beer Nut -

Yes, but if you put clear glass around a beer you have obviously very little concern for product quality. The glass, and the date, are presumably there for marketing purposes alone.

Alan -

To be fair, in Canada the bottle was sold in a nice little individual cardboard boxes, one of which now sits in the recycling box in the basement. It also sat in the dark. That being the case, it's best days were truly past. So, if Martyn is to be believed, there was a sweet spot in there between 2007-ish to maybe mid-2009. Or at least as sweet as there was to be spotted. I would not repeat the experiment.

Gary Gillman -

Sometimes I wonder if keeping bottles in paper or wooden cartons (same with spirits for presentation tubes) may impact quality over time. Theoretically, you don't want any air coming into the bottle and so it shouldn't matter, but still I have found keeping bottles in such containers for too long can lead to stale notes. Still, with a clear bottle, keeping it in the carton was properly the right choice. Interesting comments of Martyn regarding I&G: that may provide the key to me enjoying those beers, whose charms have eluded me to date (because drinking them too soon). I will lay some away.


Ilya Feynberg -

I've been trying to hunt down this damn bottle for a while now. Here in Dallas, Texas it can be pretty hard to come by. Any idea on where one might be able to get their hands on some? Perhaps online?

Martyn Cornell -

My comments about I&G should be taken as coming from the point of view of someone who doesn't like oaky flavours very much - can't stand barrel-aged Chardonnay, for example. So I'm biased. But there's no doubt the oak flavours in I&G do become more muted after a year, and even more so after two or more years.