[Ed.: Note the comments where Greg from Allagash corrects some of my less than stellar observations. But check here for thoughts on my questionable taste.]
Have you ever had a surprise disappointment? I got a bunch of Allagash brews last year, stashed them to great benefit and loved them all... until now. Their Victor just wasn't not doing it for me at all. This being the age of Twitter, I did twut thusly:
Yuk. Allagash Victor reminds me of Molson Brador gone bad. To be fair, I hated chardonnay long before this beer ever hit that cask. Bye $$$.
In the end, a straight sink pour after two half mouthfuls. The alcohol stood out like a half ounce of poor rye in 750 ml. I don't recommend anyone tries white wine cask conditioning before drinking this beer. A good try, a noble experiment, a 700 ml addition to Lake Ontario via the water treatment plant. I need a tonic. Look, the Sox are up against the Yanks and I need something to sip. So, I call upon the gods of Jolly Pumpkin to save the day.
The bottle is marked "blend #9, 2007" and was likely fresh when I visited there a year and a half ago. It's the only bottling of this beer without a review at the brewery's web forum. Boy, will "sbearorg" be ticked. The beer pours deep smoked amber under a thick fine rich cream head. On the nose, vanilla and cherry and raspberry and balsamic and so oloroso sherry. Wow. A big swish around the cheeks finds this one halfway between a gueuze and a Flemish red. Not heavy. A bit tart, a bit dry oaky, a lot of barnyard and a bit faded fruit.
Lovely, bright and cheery. Just the thing. Oddly, a solid BAer tie with the Victor. Each were bought at the brewery, the Jolly Pumpkin was half the price.






Comments
Greg from Allagash - April 25, 2009 10:08 AM
Hey there - I'm confused, it sounds like you're talking about Victoria...since you mention chardonnay in your twitter post. But, neither the Victor nor the Victoria was aged in barrels or casks. Rather we used wine grapes in the mash and a wine yeast strain.
Alan - April 25, 2009 10:23 AM
Hey Greg. Thanks for correcting my errors. I will leave it up there as proof of my deep and abiding knuckleheadedness. Youk was likely at the bat when I was reading the two pages on your website and at Beer Advocate to get a sense of what was going on.
I thought it was chardonnay-like (one of the few flavours I really do not care for) but I take your direction on both variety and lack of barrelling. Maybe it was the yeast strain, too, or it was a combination but this is the only brew from you guys that I really have not liked. Was there both a lager least and a wine yeast or just the wine yeast? And I don't think it was an off bottle but that is always a possibility.
greg again - April 25, 2009 10:31 PM
from your follow up description, it sounds like maybe some tannin flavors that could be coming through for you. I'd have to double check, but I believe we used both a wine strain and a belgian ale strain in both Victor and Victoria. We've played around w/ the grapes and the yeast a bit for each batch. I think when you brew enough of a variety you're bound to step outside of someone's particular taste every now and again! We'll keep monkeying around though w/ new stuff because that's what makes it fun...
Alan - April 25, 2009 10:45 PM
Exactly and that is what makes you guys so interesting. And you have me thinking about what "my taste" may even mean.