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Have you read The Unbearable Nonsense of Craft Beer - A Rant in Nine Acts by Alan and Max yet? It's out on Kindle as well as Lulu.

Maureen Ogle said this about the book: "... immensely readable, sometimes slightly surreal rumination on beer in general and craft beer in particular. Funny, witty, but most important: Smart. The beer geeks will likely get all cranky about it, but Alan and Max are the masters of cranky..."

Ron Pattinson said: "I'm in a rather odd situation. Because I appear in the book. A fictional version of me. It's a weird feeling."


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Stacey -

The closest old tavern to me is the Bell in Hand in Boston. However, despite its history, this bar is now more of a meat market and not really the cozy watering hole one might wish for.

The oldest pub I've ever been in is the Sheep Heid just outside of Edinburgh, Scotland. It was established in the 14th century and feels like it. :)

TC -

The oldest "continually operating" pub in Philly is McGillin's Olde Ale House, which opened in 1860.

Joe -

The one I think of here in Brussels is the Vieux Spijtigen Duivel. There's been a roadside inn/tavern on that spot for a very long time. The story goes that Holy Roman Emperor Charles V stopped there for a drink about 500 years ago.

Chipper Dave -

Sadly for me here in Greeley, Colorado, the oldest pub in our town is only 40 years old as the town of Greeley itself had imposed it's own temperance laws until 1968. Greeley was a colony built in the mid-1800's by those with puritanistic values and kept the town virtually "dry" until the 1968. Small towns sprung up around Greeley that sold beer and liquor (hence Garden City and Evans) but the town didn't have a bar until 1968. Hard to believe in this day and age.

Steve Kirk -

On July 17th, 1749, Governor Cornwallis granted a license to sell Beer and Liquor to a Mr. John Shippey. This was the first liquor license to be issued in New Scotland, (now Nova Scotia).

John Shippey named his tavern The Spread Eagle as its sign was taken from the German coat of arms, The Double Eagle.

Shortly after opening, the tavern became affectionately known as The Split Crow.

More than 250 years later, although in a different location, The Split Crow, continues to serve mariners and travelers from around the world and nearby. A welcoming smile, hearty platters of food, generous mugs of grog and, of course, great music . . . the tradition continues.

dave charlton -

The Boars Head , Wigan Road , Standish , near Wigan is listed the second oldest pub on the net and it has been serving ale since 1210 and used to hold prisoners over night in the cellars whilst on their way to prison and has two ghosts one in the cellar and one in the games room and is still going strong today.

Pat -

Jean Lafittes Blacksmith Shop, as the name implies, was a BLACKSMITH SHOP, not a pub, so it cannot be listed as being open for business as a pub since 1775. As far as I can tell, The Angel Inn in Niagara-On-The-Lake is the oldest continuously operated pub in Canada, began in the 1780's and rebuilt after it burned in the War of 1812. Everyone in Canada assumes there must be older pubs in Quebec, but if there are I have never heard of any. I think they confuse the idea of oldest continuously operating pub with pubs that have been installed into older buildings. The first category is interesting; the second is not.

Bart -

As for The Split Crow in New Scotland, Nova Scotia, as Steve Kirk points out that it is not in its original condition. We do not know from his entry whether it has continuously operated, or whether a more modern pub simply adopted the old name. My guess is the latter because that has happened so much in history, but I don't know.

Alan -

"...Everyone in Canada..."

"...the second is not..."

That is all a bit tyrannical for me. It seems to me that we have to appreciate that in some cases lines were not as strict as they are now and what is truly interesting probably lies in figuring out what the experience was like. Very little research has been done around that traditionally but I do recommend In Mixed Companyin terms of what is now Ontario.

David Parsons -

The Chateau Laffeyette in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada was established in 1849 and is still going strong, though in recent years they've made half of it into a Queznos Pizza. The beer is still served in quartes and the rooms upstairs are cheap!

peter jewers -

The split crow in Halifax NS opened in 1749 and moved once it has been called the Split Crow sence it opened as it still is called the same to this day

Alan -

But the Crow is neither in its old building or even a continuous operation. I am really thinking in terms of the use of a space rather than a name.

Pat -

The Angel Inn, in Niagara-on-The-Lake is by far the oldest pub in Canada. It dates from 1786, and was rebuilt on the same foundation after it was burned by the Americans in the War of 1812. The oldest pub in Toronto is The Black Bull, and has been in the same building since 1833. The second oldest is The Wheat Sheaf, a relative newcomer at 1849. Weirdly, I can't think of any particularly old bars in Montreal; there are some in very old building, but they themselves are not particularly old.