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Have you read The Unbearable Nonsense of Craft Beer - A Rant in Nine Acts by Alan and Max yet? It's out on Kindle as well as Lulu.

Maureen Ogle said this about the book: "... immensely readable, sometimes slightly surreal rumination on beer in general and craft beer in particular. Funny, witty, but most important: Smart. The beer geeks will likely get all cranky about it, but Alan and Max are the masters of cranky..."

Ron Pattinson said: "I'm in a rather odd situation. Because I appear in the book. A fictional version of me. It's a weird feeling."


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rama -

You're too kind! The Guinness brewery was the most disappointing tour I've done by far- in fact I wouldn't even call it a "brewery" tour- the brewery is locked away off limits in some far-away buildings. The your itself is just a maze of marketing spew while you work your way up to the bar at the top for the "complimentary" Guinness. It definitely is for the tourist, not the beer geek. (heh, just like their beers. :))

Paul of Kingston -

Is the plural of guinness guinnii?

Alan -

I thought it was "always".

Johnson -

no paul. "Guinness" is a proper noun and, therefore, its plural is "Guinnesses."

At least, that is the case if you are speaking English. If I'm not mistaken, Guinness is originally an Irish (Gaelic) name. I have don't have a very good beat on how plurals are dealt with in that language but I doubt anyone would know what you were talking about if you used it anyhow.

I would stick with Guinnesses if I were you.

Knut Albert -

Maybe I'm too kind, rama, but I enjoyed it. Sure, it's not a brewery tour, but I was impressed with the scale of it. Sure, there should have been tastings of their other stouts etc...
But the displays of vintage bottles and advertising were fine, and I felt it was a fine way to waste two hours. But if anyone has better examples of beer museums, I'm all ears. We had a discussion about this a year a go, when I called for a London pub museum.

Dave D -

The plural of Guinness is Guinness'. "We finnished our Guinness' and went on our merry way."

Robert -

Etymologically speaking, Guinness isn't an Irish surname by origins, though it is Gaelic... Welsh to be correct. Much related to Guinness would be the surname Quinn which some claim to be much more "Irish" than Guinness, as a last name goes.

In fact, Guinness may be synonmous with Ireland, but the Guinness brewery was never that kind to the native Irish population (Catholics) and had had a centuries long policy of discrimination again the Irish. Most of the "natives" that were hired at St James Gate were given the most demeaning jobs. They were usually poor, uneducated and unskilled. They were easily replaceable cogs in a wheel.

Arthur Guinness was himself the son on a Protestant minister. The Guinness family was one of a slew of Protestant Ascendancy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Ascendancy) families in the Pale, also known as Dublin and Environs.

But, alas, that's history. Pass a pint and enjoy!

Alan -

Just to be clear, Martyn has recently set out how the Guinness folk were from County Down and that his father was not a minister though he worked for a man who became an archbishop...and I would have though the Celtic Church would have the claim to <i>nativism</i>.